This is the second post in a series examining 355 pairs of my own relatives who have tested, looking at how much DNA each shares in total as well as the size of the largest segment. (First post in the series can be seen
here and the third
here.)
Everyone here has 100% Ashkenazic Jewish ancestry unless noted otherwise
in the "Comments" column. All numbers are as given by GedMatch with
the exception of comparisons with Benjamin, JudithB, Shannon & Layla
who are only on FamilyTreeDNA.
For each relationship section, I give the expected amount of shared centimorgans according to
ISOGG. I've also added in low/high ranges (at the 99th percentile) and average amounts shared according to the
Shared Centimorgan Project
(SCP) based on feedback to the first post. In addition to looking at overall shared DNA for each pair, I
also note the size of the longest shared segment. Each relationship
section gives the average amount of shared DNA and largest segment
looking at those who have 100% Ashkenazic Jewish ancestry.
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I have a LOT of potential matches. What do real matches look like? |
Second Cousins (212.5cM expected ISOGG; 46-515/233 SCP)
Pair of relatives |
Total cM shared (GedMatch) |
Longest segment in cM |
Comments |
Beth / Sid | 337 | 48 | Beth 1/2 AJ |
Beth / My father | 334.7 | 48 | Beth 1/2 AJ |
Susie / Beth | 363.5 | 39.2 | Beth 1/2 AJ |
JudithK / Ed | 198.1 | 28.1 | |
JudithK / Scott | 358.7 | 45.7 | |
JudithK / My mother | 252.2 | 45.7 | |
Leslie / Ed | 171.6 | 40.8 | |
Leslie / My mother | 249.2 | 48.3 | |
Leon / Ed | 213 | 32.1 | |
Leon / Scott | 255 | 34.4 | |
Leon / My mother | 247.8 | 40.4 | |
Sandy / Ed | 169.1 | 24.2 | Sandy 3/4 AJ |
Sandy / My mother | 324.2 | 36 | Sandy 3/4 AJ |
Sandy / Leslie | 244.1 | 57.7 | Sandy 3/4 AJ |
Fern / Ed | 181.1 | 22.8 | |
Fern / Scott | 245.9 | 52.1 | |
Fern / My mother | 253.3 | 42 | |
Fern / JudithK | 220.1 | 38 | |
Fern / Leon | 247.6 | 48.2 | |
Karen / Leslie | 273.9 | 40.4 | |
Karen / Sandy | 174.9 | 36.1 | Sandy 3/4 AJ |
Myron / Ken | 402.1 | 99.9 | |
PatS / Ed | 183.7 | 42.1 | |
PatS / My mother | 167.3 | 40.5 | |
PatS / Karen | 185.9 | 25.2 | |
Tara / Sid | 155.2 | 49.9 | |
Tara / My father | 180.4 | 34.7 | |
Tara / Beth | 178.5 | 39.8 | |
Tara / Susie | 254.4 | 74.8 | |
Jerry / Ed | 149.8 | 32.8 | |
Jerry / Scott | 286.5 | 34.6 | |
Jerry / My mother | 346.9 | 32.9 | |
Jerry / Fern | 261.5 | 62.1 | |
PaulaS / Beth | 218.2 | 46.8 | Beth 1/2 AJ |
PaulaS / Tara | 266.9 | 50.5 | |
Berly / Beth | 183.3 | 46.7 | Beth 1/2 AJ |
Berly / Tara | 296.1 | 74.8 | |
Myra / Leslie | 93.3 | 15.9 | |
Myra / Myron | 281.4 | 37.6 | |
Dan / Sid | 218.4 | 64.5 | |
Dan / My father | 221.4 | 70.1 | |
Dan / Beth | 69.7 | 21.3 | Beth 1/2 AJ |
Dan / Susie | 305.4 | 82.6 | |
Dan / PaulaS | 266.6 | 71.8 | |
Dan / Berly | 230.4 | 71.9 | |
Hale / My grandmother | 374.7 | 63 | |
DaveSr / Sid | 446.5 | 65.2 | DaveSr 1/2 AJ |
DaveSr / My father | 658.1 | 93.9 | DaveSr 1/2 AJ |
DaveSr / Susie | 589.5 | 66.3 | DaveSr 1/2 AJ |
DaveSr / Tara | 136.3 | 19.7 | DaveSr 1/2 AJ |
DaveSr / PaulaS | 202.1 | 29.2 | DaveSr 1/2 AJ |
DaveSr / Berly | 238.8 | 42.7 | DaveSr 1/2 AJ |
DaveSr / Dan | 72.5 | 16.6 | DaveSr 1/2 AJ |
Debra / Dave | 185.8 | 38.6 | Dave & Debra 1/4 AJ |
Debra / Liz | 180.6 | 29.7 | Liz & Debra 1/4 AJ |
PattyBG / Dave | 303 | 42 | PattyBG & Dave 1/4 AJ |
PattyBG / Liz | 149 | 31.2 | PattyBG & Liz 1/4 AJ |
Benjamin / My grandmother | 268 | 38 | |
Marilyn / Ken | 291.2 | 88.1 | |
Marilyn / Leslie | 195.3 | 45 | |
Marilyn / Myra | 201.2 | 34.6 | |
Average (for 100% AJ) |
240.75cM |
48.42cM |
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3/4 Second Cousins
Pair of relatives |
Total cM shared (GedMatch) |
Longest segment in cM |
Comments |
Don / Amy | 239.7 | 27.1 | |
Average (for 100% AJ) |
239.7cM |
27.1cM |
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Half Second Cousins (106.25 expected ISOGG; 9-397/117)
Pair of relatives |
Total cM shared (GedMatch) |
Longest segment in cM |
Comments |
Sue / Ken | 164.8 | 52.9 | |
Myron / Sue | 151.6 | 26.9 | |
Amy / Sid | 187 | 78.3 | |
Amy / My father | 214 | 46.9 | |
Amy / Susie | 160.5 | 46.9 | |
PaulaS / Amy | 142.8 | 40.2 | |
Berly / Amy | 77 | 31.2 | |
Myra / Sue | 108.2 | 27.8 | |
Don / Sid | 139.5 | 46.3 | |
Don / My father | 83.4 | 22.6 | |
Don / Susie | 100.5 | 26.8 | |
Don / PaulaS | 214.3 | 36.8 | |
Don / Berly | 162.1 | 28.3 | |
Marilyn / Sue | 232.9 | 64.2 | |
Average (for 100% AJ) |
152.76cM |
41.15cM |
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Second Cousins Once Removed (106.25 expected ISOGG; 0-316/123 SCP)
Pair of relatives |
Total cM shared (GedMatch) |
Longest segment in cM |
Comments |
Ken / Ed | 226.2 | 47.9 | |
My mother / Ken | 275.1 | 58.6 | |
Beth / Me | 214 | 48 | Beth 1/2 AJ |
JudithK / Me | 195.3 | 45.2 | |
Leslie / Me | 192.9 | 43.7 | |
Leslie / Ken | 186.6 | 37.2 | |
Leon / Me | 137.4 | 32.1 | |
Ron / Ruth | 209 | 68.5 | |
Sandy / Me | 131.9 | 24.9 | Sandy 3/4 AJ |
Sandy / Ken | 128.4 | 28.5 | Sandy 3/4 AJ |
Fern / Me | 206.6 | 33.7 | |
Karen / Ken | 165.2 | 58.3 | |
Myron / Ed | 255.8 | 52.3 | |
Myron / My mother | 147.9 | 19.8 | |
Myron / Leslie | 121.8 | 19.2 | |
Myron / Sandy | 125.9 | 49 | Sandy 3/4 AJ |
Myron / Karen | 142 | 29.9 | |
PatS / Me | 105.5 | 26.2 | |
Sara / Ken | 236.8 | 47.1 | |
Dave / Sid | 263.4 | 39.3 | Dave 1/4 AJ |
Dave / My father | 397.7 | 93.6 | Dave 1/4 AJ |
Dave / Susie | 409.5 | 39.8 | Dave 1/4 AJ |
Liz / Sid | 145.7 | 29 | Liz 1/4 AJ |
Liz / My father | 167.6 | 30.5 | Liz 1/4 AJ |
Liz / Susie | 265.2 | 30.5 | Liz 1/4 AJ |
Mark / Ed | 184.8 | 30.4 | Mark 3/4 AJ |
Mark / My mother | 189.3 | 30.4 | Mark 3/4 AJ |
Mark / Leslie | 140.7 | 35.3 | Mark 3/4 AJ |
Mark / Karen | 101 | 22.1 | Mark 3/4 AJ |
Tara / Me | 134.7 | 34.2 | |
Jerry / Me | 237.8 | 32.8 | |
PaulaS / Dave | 63.1 | 29.1 | Dave 1/4 AJ |
PaulaS / Liz | 169.4 | 38 | Liz 1/4 AJ |
Berly / Dave | 73.6 | 43.1 | Dave 1/4 AJ |
Berly / Liz | 134.8 | 27.1 | Liz 1/4 AJ |
Myra / Ed | 157.9 | 20.2 | |
Myra / My mother | 160.3 | 25.3 | |
Myra / Sandy | 99.5 | 66.4 | Sandy 3/4 AJ |
Myra / Karen | 117.9 | 21.7 | |
Myra / Sara | 275.5 | 55.8 | |
Dan / Me | 147.7 | 34.7 | |
Dan / Dave | 57.1 | 16.3 | Dave 1/4 AJ |
Dan / Liz | 71.1 | 31.3 | Liz 1/4 AJ |
Hale / Sid | 191.7 | 22.5 | |
Hale / My father | 228.1 | 62.1 | |
Hale / Susie | 226.5 | 53.9 | |
DaveSr / Me | 433.4 | 65 | DaveSr 1/2 AJ |
Debra / Sid | 344.7 | 81.8 | Debra 1/4 AJ |
Debra / My father | 326.6 | 81.5 | Debra 1/4 AJ |
Debra / Susie | 323.4 | 81.5 | Debra 1/4 AJ |
Debra / Tara | 112.5 | 26.8 | Debra 1/4 AJ |
Debra / PaulaS | 199.4 | 46.8 | Debra 1/4 AJ |
Debra / Berly | 153.6 | 46.7 | Debra 1/4 AJ |
Debra / Dan | 120.1 | 23.6 | Debra 1/4 AJ |
PattyBG / Sid | 276.8 | 63.4 | PattyBG 1/4 AJ |
PattyBG / My father | 284.1 | 63.1 | PattyBG 1/4 AJ |
PattyBG / Susie | 299 | 63.1 | PattyBG 1/4 AJ |
PattyBG / Tara | 36.1 | 15.6 | PattyBG 1/4 AJ |
PattyBG / PaulaS | 176.7 | 32.4 | PattyBG 1/4 AJ |
PattyBG / Berly | 160.3 | 37.8 | PattyBG 1/4 AJ |
PattyBG / Dan | 59.5 | 17 | PattyBG 1/4 AJ |
Benjamin / Sid | 116 | 29 | |
Benjamin / My father | 167 | 38 | |
Benjamin / Susie | 197 | 38 | |
Elise / My grandmother | 236.1 | 46 | |
Marilyn / Ed | 161 | 52.3 | |
Marilyn / My mother | 148.6 | 32.5 | |
Marilyn / Sandy | 171.6 | 37.2 | Sandy 3/4 AJ |
Marilyn / Karen | 113.1 | 29.6 | |
Average (for 100% AJ) |
181.9cM |
39.01cM |
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Half Second Cousins Once Removed (53.13 expected ISOGG; 0-341/73)
Pair of relatives |
Total cM shared (GedMatch) |
Longest segment in cM |
Comments |
Sue / Ed | 124 | 23.3 | |
Sue / My mother | 106.4 | 23.3 | |
Leslie / Sue | 16.9 | 9.3 | |
Sandy / Sue | 89.1 | 19.8 | Sandy 3/4 AJ |
Karen / Sue | 59.7 | 12.1 | |
Sara / Sue | 65.8 | 28.5 | |
Amy / Me | 97.5 | 47.2 | |
Don / Me | 69.7 | 22.5 | |
Average (for 100% AJ) |
77.14cM |
23.74cM |
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Second Cousins Twice Removed (53.13 expected ISOGG; 0-261/74 SCP)
Pair of relatives |
Total cM shared (GedMatch) |
Longest segment in cM |
Comments |
Ken / Me | 132.6 | 59.3 | |
Myron / Me | 116.4 | 13.6 | |
Mark / Ken | 180.7 | 46.6 | Mark 3/4 AJ |
Mark / Myron | 93.7 | 42.7 | Mark 3/4 AJ |
Myra / Me | 92.5 | 21.5 | |
Myra / Mark | 106.2 | 33.9 | Mark 3/4 AJ |
Hale / Me | 147.6 | 35.9 | |
Benjamin / Me | 170 | 38 | |
Marilyn / Me | 70.4 | 30.6 | |
Marilyn / Mark | 162 | 62.1 | Mark 3/4 AJ |
Shannon / Sid | 90 | 30 | Shannon 1/8 AJ |
Shannon / My father | 117 | 31 | Shannon 1/8 AJ |
Shannon / Susie | 143 | 31 | Shannon 1/8 AJ |
Shannon / Tara | 0 | 0 | Shannon 1/8 AJ |
Shannon / PaulaS | 77 | 14 | Shannon 1/8 AJ |
Shannon / Berly | 69 | 21 | Shannon 1/8 AJ |
Shannon / Dan | 49 | 15 | Shannon 1/8 AJ |
Average (for 100% AJ) |
121.58cM |
33.15cM |
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In general, as the relationships get more distant, it seems that the total shared DNA for the 100% Ashkenazi pairs is higher than expected either from ISOGG or the Shared Centimorgan Project.
Stay tuned for additional posts which will look at more distant relationships. Lots more data to come!
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As I commented on your first post, it does seem that the greater the distance in the relationship, the bigger the disparity between the expected cM and those occurring among your kits. Not surprising given endogamy! Interesting!
ReplyDeleteYes--and wait until you see part 3!
DeleteGreat, it is very encouraging. It means that up to the "actual" 3rd cousins, one shouldn't expect the extraordinary levels of spurious DNA sharing on the order of what you see in the broad population of false-positive DNA match hits
ReplyDeleteProblem is the many false positives!
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